Gold Gathering

Overview

How fast do you really mine gold? How many miners equal a relic?

Goldmining

If there is one thing even top players can argue about when it comes to booming it’s when to do certain economical upgrades. The basic upgrades for wood and food form no point of debate. But the ones for mining upgrades seem to be more of a personal preference rather than a globally accepted truth. So let’s take a look at the gathering rates for goldmining. I came to the following figures with this setup:

The villagers are 1 tile away from the mining camp. This is the most realistic setup since only a very limited amount of villagers would be able to gather gold from a distance of 0 tiles. We ignore the concept of “bumping” for now.

Seconds 1 villager needs to gather 1 gold

Techs None
None 2.78 2.74 2.7
2.44 2.38 2.35
2.14 2.1 2.05

As you can see, the effect of the wheelbarrow and hand cart techs is rather minimal. Only when you take bumping into account, the effect gets bigger. Let’s explain the numbers into more comprehensible language now.

If you have 10 gold miners then it takes about 28 seconds to gather 100 gold without any upgrades. But if you pay for the goldmining upgrade, then it will only take the guys 24 seconds to gather 100 gold. A minimal difference you say? Wrong, because in those 4 seconds, the player who has goldmining researched already dug up 15 gold extra. Which equals the work of an extra villager! So technically you added an extra villager to your gold mine without even having to use your precious TC time for it.

If we take the example to more extreme forms we take a look at a situation with 30 miners. 30 miners are generally considered a good amount to have in imperial games for a normal imperial army. We assume that hand cart is researched, which is rather normal in a booming game. So if 30 miners gather 1000 gold it takes them 1:30 without any goldmining upgrades. 1:18 with gold mining and only 1:08 if gold shaft mining is researched too! Imagine you can pay for your precious Paladin upgrade half a minute earlier than your opponent. That’s quite a difference. And those half minutes add up too. After 5 minutes of playing you’re already 1000 gold ahead! That’s 13 Paladins more!

Bumping

We didn’t take bumping into account here. Bumping means that once a villager has to drop off his load, he might “bump” into other villagers. This is inevitable and leads to slower gathering. If you do the wheelbarrow and hand cart tech however, villagers carry more and need to run back and forth less. Thus decreasing their chance to bump into their colleagues. But the general rule for bumping is: if your resources start to look like ant nests, start sending villagers to other places.

Relics

Besides mining you can also gather relics to collect gold. The benefit of relics is that they are an endless income of gold that doesn’t take up population room. Let’s take a look at how fast they generate gold.

Seconds 1 relic needs to generate 1 gold

Civ Normal Aztecs
2 1.5

Practical overview (normal civs/Aztecs)

1 2 3 4 5
1 min 30 60 90 120 150
1 min + Aztecs 40 80 120 160 200
10 min 300 600 900 1200 1500
10 min + Aztecs 400 800 1200 1600 2000
60 min 1800 3600 5400 7200 9000
60 min + Aztecs 2400 4800 7200 9600 12000

Let’s say you’re in a lategame situation with Aztecs. Gold is getting sparse and you need to brace up for a trashwar. If you were able to collect all the relics on the map, you’d be able to mix in 4 eagles every minute! And therefor totally making up for the Aztec’s weakness in trashwars. Similar story for other civs, especially if you invested in onagers earlier then you can keep adding onagers to your army all game long. And these behemoths are a huge deal in trashwars!

Villagers vs Relics

If we combine both tables we can tell something on how relics compare to villagers. We take a look at fully upgraded villagers (2 secs per gold) and an average villager (2.5 secs per gold). A fully upgraded villager nearly equals a relic. So 5 relics is about 5.5 villagers. An average villager is much slower than that, 5 relics equal about 6.25 villagers. And if we compare it to Aztec relics then we can see the true power of their relic bonus. 5 relics equal about 6.75 fully upgraded villagers and 8.5 average ones. And since not all civs have the last mining upgrade, you can see how pop-effective and valuable it is to collect relics.

Written by Cysion

  • kewdo

    why not get relics any way ..better than your opponent having them. In single player i leave them for the AI

  • http://ageofrogliano.wordpress.com r. von fickn

    amazing explain, very helpfull!

    r. von fickn
    ageofrogliano clan
    ageofrogliano.blogspot.com

  • FrozzenFlame

    I never stopped to think about this . . . interesting indeed !

  • Calsino

    very good

  • Anonymous

    I ve always wondered about this thxx